In this week’s episode, Mike and guest Suzanne Taylor-King discuss how we all have an internal dialogue and that’s really what the judge is. It is that internal voice in your head that makes you self-sabotage. Let’s learn more together.
Suzanne Taylor-King’s Biography
Since 2009, Suzanne has supported individuals and small businesses to grow personally and professionally. She is a resource genius, and a master certified coach (10,000 + hours) with a unique coaching background of fitness, nutrition, habits, and positive psychology.
Drawing upon her background as a competitive athlete, 20 years as a Dental Hygienist, and the study of positive psychology, the neuroscience of habits, nutrition, and personal wellbeing she takes coaching to the next level for her clients. This combination of NLP, Positive Psychology, Emotional Fitness, High-Performance Habits, Ancient Wisdom & Modern Tools now known as the Taylord Method has been dubbed the “secret weapon” for entrepreneurs.
In This Episode, You’ll Learn…
- In what ways do we sabotage ourselves?
- What are your innate character strengths?
- Subconscious Saboteurs.
- How ego can hurt your overall effectiveness.
Quotables
- “Knowing, and being aware that that voice in your head is not you.” Suzanne Taylor-King
- “One of the things I love to do before I start working with a client is to know their innate character strengths and those subconscious saboteurs.” Suzanne Taylor-King
- “The hyper-achiever shows up because of the entrepreneurial mindset because entrepreneurs as a whole are resilient and full of grit, they’re willing to take risks, but they also can lean a little bit towards the perfectionistic.” Suzanne Taylor-King
Links & Resources Mentioned…
- Suzanne Taylor-King’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzanne-taylor-king/
- Suzanne Taylor-King’s Website – https://www.suzannetaylorking.com/about-the-founder
- Suzanne’s Emotional Intelligence Program – https://www.suzannetaylorking.com/positive-intelligence-pod
- Suzanne Taylor-King Life & Mental Performance Coach – https://taylordagency.com/pq
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- Welcome back to
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the "Get Unstuck & On Target" podcast.
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I'm Mike O'Neill with Bench Builders,
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and we help growing companies,
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especially manufacturers,
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improve their people, process,
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and planning systems,
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so they can scale smarter and faster.
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Joining me today is Suzanne Taylor King.
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Suzanne is a life and
mental performance coach.
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My friend, Chris Michel,
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also known as Coach Chris,
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introduced me to Suzanne
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about six to eight weeks ago,
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and she has so warmly welcomed me
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into her coaching tribe.
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In short, she's a coach's coach.
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Since 2009, Suzanne has
supported practice owners,
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entrepreneurs, and coaches grow personally
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and professionally.
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She's a technology wizard
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and a Master Certified Coach
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who has a unique coaching background,
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and a genuine interest
in seeing others succeed.
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Welcome, Suzanne.
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- Hi, good morning.
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Thanks for having me.
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- Good morning.
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We are recording this early, early for me.
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Maybe not early for you,
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early in the morning.
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And Suzanne, you are so capable
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of speaking on a wide variety of topics,
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but one of the things that I felt
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that would be most
interesting to our listeners
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is something that you have expertise in,
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and therefore, I like
to entitle this episode
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here comes the judge,
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you're master saboteur.
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- Love it.
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- Tell me a little more about this.
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Would you kind of set
up for our listeners,
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what is it that we're talking about?
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This mental muscle regarding
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what you need to exercise
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and how do you strengthen it?
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So can you walk us
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through that?
- I, well,
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I love this,
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because we all have that internal dialogue
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and that's really what the judge is.
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It is that internal voice
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in your head
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that you hear on a recurring basis.
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And for most people
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it's totally under the radar,
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it's almost subconscious
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that you hear those
statements about yourself,
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about other people,
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and it typically is
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very finger pointy type of commentary.
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Some of my clients say
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it's a running commentary of life,
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like a news report.
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"Oh, look at that.
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Oh, look at that.
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Oh, this is that, this is that."
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And you're constantly making up stories
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or judgments about yourself
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and other people.
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- So, kind of put this in perspective,
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when I see the word
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or hear the word saboteur,
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I guess that's French.
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- I believe so.
- In what ways
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do we sabotage ourselves?
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- Well, there's so many.
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In my early days in coaching
I was a health coach.
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So health, fitness, food,
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I was a holistic nutritionist,
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and one of the first things I addressed
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in that coaching practice,
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was emotional eating.
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So how you could want to be on a diet,
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you could want to be healthy,
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but something internally made you cheat
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or sabotage those healthy efforts.
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Say you made them all week,
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and then you get to Friday or Saturday,
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and you you eat entirely too much,
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you sabotage all of your
weight loss efforts,
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as a reward for doing well
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the five days prior.
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And that was really my first exposure
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into self sabotage.
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And most of the work I did
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as a fitness and nutrition coach
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was really mindset work,
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encouraging, positive thinking,
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positive goals,
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maybe some daily affirmations,
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but really about taking that judge
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and turning that internal commentary
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into not really being on a diet,
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but I'm-
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(audio warbles)
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Care of myself,
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I'm doing what's best for my body.
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And also the outlook
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that one cookie
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didn't ruin your week.
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So, a lot of times when we start
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to self sabotage we just say,
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"psht, whatever, I'm now going all in
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on the junk food,
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or I'm going all in on the alcohol,
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or I'm going all in on something else."
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Maybe it's technology
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that you're addicted to.
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So I think really realizing
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that one little slip up
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doesn't ruin all of your progress,
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and that's a shift in your mental thinking
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- Suzanne, you were kind enough
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to send me probably a handout
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that you give your clients.
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that begins to list some of these,
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you refer to them as
accomplished saboteurs.
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And there are several of those.
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Would you maybe pick some
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that you feel that you see all too often
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that might be helpful
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for our listeners to learn more about?
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- Sure.
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One of the things I love to do
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before I start working with a client is
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to know their innate character strengths
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and those subconscious saboteurs.
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So beneath the judge,
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beneath your voice,
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there is typically a way
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that it presents itself,
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depending on how you were raised,
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your childhood,
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your life experiences,
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and what you are currently doing.
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So my-
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(audio warbles)
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Is the avoider,
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and the avoider basically says,
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"you don't have time to do that right now,
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you'll do that later."
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Or "that feels uncomfortable,
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why don't we do that tomorrow?"
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And then tomorrow never comes,
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because I'm just plainly avoiding
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whatever the task is at hand,
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in favor of doing something
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that is more brain chemical rewarding,
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like scrolling social media.
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So one of the other common saboteurs
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with a lot of entrepreneurs
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is the hyper-achiever.
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So, the hyper-achiever shows up
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because of the entrepreneurial mindset,
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because entrepreneurs
as a whole are resilient
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and full of grit,
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they're willing to take risk,
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but they also can lean a little bit
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towards the perfectionistic,
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it has to be perfect,
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"and if I get the bronze medal,
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hmm, it's not quite good enough,
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I could have gotten gold."
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And that that's probably the most common
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with an entrepreneur.
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My favorite saboteur to tackle
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is the victim.
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The victim shows up
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for those people who are operating
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from a place of ego,
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and I deal with a lot
of doctors, attorneys,
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and very high profile
influencer type coaches
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who don't even want the public to know
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that they have a mindset coach.
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So, getting past that ego of
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"it's not me, it's you,"
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and reminding them
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that anytime they point the finger
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and claim victimhood,
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there's three fingers
pointing back at them.
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- Yes.
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- So that's a fun one for me.
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- You've mentioned three,
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I know there are more.
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Last night over dinner my wife
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and I just kind of went
through this handout.
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- Oh, I love it.
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- And I kind of put
check marks next to some.
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I don't mind sharing,
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as you may know
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I moved from a corporate HR role
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to being a business owner.
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And as an entrepreneur,
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as a business owner,
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the hyper-achiever piece,
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it for me, big time.
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And I think you see that
a lot in entrepreneurs.
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- Yes.
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- You mentioned you work a lot
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with professionals.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Doctors, lawyers, even coaches,
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and the ego, you mentioned the ego,
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you need the ego to be
successful in those roles,
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but that ego can come back,
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and hurt their overall effectiveness.
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Is that what you're finding?
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- Well, I believe that
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typically you need confidence
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to succeed,
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you need leadership skills to succeed.
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But thinking that you know it all,
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you are it all,
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you're always right,
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to me that's what ego means,
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that there couldn't possibly
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be another perspective,
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that you're leading
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with that type of push authority,
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instead of the leadership authority of
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"look what we could create,
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do you wanna come along with me?"
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- The nature of your coaching practice,
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it sounds as if it's kind of evolved,
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you mentioned early on,
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it was more holistic medicine,
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and it's not that you've abandoned that,
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but can you describe a little bit
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about your entrepreneurial
journey as a coach?
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How has it evolved?
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- Yeah, it's really,
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it's amazing now to look back on it.
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It's totally exactly
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what I would've imagined,
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but during it didn't make any sense.
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And I know it didn't make sense to me,
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I know it didn't make sense
to my friends, family,
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but now looking back, I'm like, oh, I see.
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And so, originally I
was a dental hygienist
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for 20 years,
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so my background was science, healthcare,
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noticed with a lot of my patients
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that nutrition was an issue.
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And I started diving into the connection
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between nutrition and illness,
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and that's what started the journey
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of health coaching.
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And really started it as a hobby.
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I worked at a gym teaching
fitness classes for fun,
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and my clients walked in the door.
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So I had this instant following,
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instant rapport with people,
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and it was super easy to
build a coaching practice.
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When I started moving
into the online space,
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that's when I had started to
study positive psychology,
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and I wasn't sure what that meant
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for my health coaching practice,
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so I added on life and wellness coach.
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So then I could,
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at least at the time I was feeling
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like I was coaching the whole person.
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- Yes.
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- Not only your fitness journey,
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but if you're not sleeping,
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you don't have energy to work out.
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- Yes.
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- If you're not drinking enough water,
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you can't possibly have
this stamina to run a 5K.
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So there's all these things
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that were intertwined for me in my mind,
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and then I've owned a business,
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since early nineties,
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my first business
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generated over a million
dollars the first year
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without any social media,
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without any marketing,
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without any advertising,
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just word of mouth.
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- It's remarkable.
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- It's amazing now, honestly,
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to look back at it,
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and having that entrepreneurial spirit,
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starting numerous businesses,
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entrepreneurs were attracted to me.
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So then, I'm working
with mostly entrepreneurs
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on their health journey,
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on their wellness, on their mindset.
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I thought, well,
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there's a lot of business pieces here,
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there's a lot of business
acumen or resources
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that I have that I've
built up over the years,
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that I want to share
with other entrepreneurs.
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And, so that's how it kind of evolved
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into mental performance
coaching for entrepreneurs.
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- I love kind of how this evolved
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and I love the fact that you said
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that it really has kind of worked
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out the way you might would
have originally envisioned it.
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I wanna continue on this path
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of entrepreneurs.
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As someone who has been self-employed now
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for well over a decade,
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I can't tell you the number of friends
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who are in a corporate role
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who will pull me aside,
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and over coffee or a beer,
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just kind of look at me in the eye
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and just say,
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"oh, I just long to own my own business."
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So many people have expressed
interest in doing so.
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And there are a lot
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of very successful
entrepreneurs out there,
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but for those who are listening,
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who might have in the back of their mind,
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"I would love to own my own business."
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What have you found
might be just absolutes
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that they need to understand
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before they take that plunge?
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- Oh, number one,
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it's gonna cost you more money
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than you think it is.
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- Yes.
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- Number two, you can start it
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with very minimal startup money,
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and you don't need a website,
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and a social media presence,
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you don't need to be an influencer,
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you don't need to have online courses,
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you don't need to have all the things,
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the shiny objects
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that you see successful people having.
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Just get your idea down on paper,
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talk to people about it,
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and start,
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just start.
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And then form your corporation,
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which is typically $75 in the state,
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depending on the state you live in,
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and don't worry about
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all the fancy, shiny things
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like the business cards,
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'cause they're gonna change 20 times.
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The website's gonna change
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10 times before you get it right.
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So just breathe and just start.
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- Hmm, great guidance.
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Suzanne, as you kind of reflect
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on what you've been able to do,
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can you share an example
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where either you or a client got stuck,
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and when that happened
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what did it take to get unstuck?
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- Well, I'll share what I just talked
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about is where I got stuck.
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- Okay.
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- I got stuck in the beginning thinking
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that I had to invest $10,000 in a website,
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and I needed to have a coach,
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that was another 10 or $20,000,
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and I needed to have
another certification,
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and another certification.
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And looking back, it's great,
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now I had 15 certifications,
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but I didn't need
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all of those things
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to get started helping people.
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And so that's number one.
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Number two,
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I think if I had to do it over again,
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I would work on myself
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and my internal trust
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in what I wanted to do,
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instead of listening to other people
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tell me what I should be doing.
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- And if you had listened to yourself
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and trusted yourself,
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how might you have done
things differently?
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- I'd be doing things
the way I do them now,
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networking, speaking,
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meeting people,
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creating clients from those relationships,
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not expecting to post on social media
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and make money.
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That's what I thought.
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That's what I thought,
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like I literally, and I've talked
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to so many people who feel the same way,
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that they thought coming
into the online space,
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I'm a coach, I'm gonna
post on social media,
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people are gonna comment,
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and they're gonna go to my website
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and buy my stuff.
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Everything I've done,
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that's been substantial,
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has been created through
relationships with people.
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- Well, it's those
relationships with people
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that brought us together,
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probably about two months ago,
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because you have multiple ways
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in which you can connect with folks.
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- Yes.
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Matter of fact,
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there's almost too many to kind of list,
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but when people hear the word coach,
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it's funny, their mental understanding
00:18:26.030 --> 00:18:30.860
of what Suzanne Taylor
king does may be way off.
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I know that you do coach one-on-one,
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I know you work with teams,
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you conduct workshops.
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The Mastermind program you have,
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very intriguing.
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Would you mind taking a little,
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just kinda walk us through,
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one, what is a mastermind?
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And the approach that
your mastermind takes,
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what really is making that work so well?
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- Well, I actually have
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three different Mastermind groups,
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so I don't advertise them all.
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And again, that's the beauty
00:19:08.780 --> 00:19:10.650
of personal connection.
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So if I meet somebody
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and they're interested in working with me,
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based on the conversations we've had
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I know where they're at in business,
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and I wouldn't want to put them
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in a Mastermind group
00:19:23.550 --> 00:19:26.613
that's full of network
marketing entrepreneurs.
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- Yes.
- If they were
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in financial services.
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- Okay.
00:19:31.677 --> 00:19:32.530
- I would wanna put them
00:19:32.530 --> 00:19:36.931
in a group with other
service professionals.
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And it also depends on income level.
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There's different challenges
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at different levels of income in business.
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So my Mastermind groups,
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they all function in a group environment
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where we meet weekly or monthly,
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my coaches group,
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which is currently free, meets monthly.,
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and it's just to have conversations,
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it's nothing formal.
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But the entrepreneur groups
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are typically weekly,
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and it includes some learning,
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it includes some homework,
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and the biggest portion
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is the accountability factor.
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Do what you say,
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what did you say you
were gonna do last week?
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Did you do it?
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If not, why not?
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And how can the group help you?
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So I typically keep those groups,
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between 8 and 10
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really engaged people.
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And I'll give you an example,
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my one group has 14 people,
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and reason being,
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six of those people
00:20:54.140 --> 00:20:57.640
are all on one network marketing team.
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- I see.
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- And I've noticed a couple people missing
00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:04.853
weeks at a time.
00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:07.320
Now, they're still paying,
00:21:07.320 --> 00:21:08.880
which I think is ridiculous,
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like, why are you paying
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for something you're not doing?
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So that's a whole another
coaching opportunity for me.
00:21:15.490 --> 00:21:19.010
But as soon as I notice
00:21:19.010 --> 00:21:23.893
that okay, Mary missed
second week of the month,
00:21:24.810 --> 00:21:28.063
Mary and Sally missed the
third week of the month,
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and then Mary was here and Sally wasn't,
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I start to get curious.
00:21:34.890 --> 00:21:37.610
What's going on with my clients?
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And that's when that
personal touch comes in.
00:21:41.360 --> 00:21:43.223
And because the group is small,
00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:45.660
I know their businesses,
00:21:45.660 --> 00:21:48.170
I know their personalities,
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I know their strengths,
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I know their saboteurs.
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So, I can reach out to them
00:21:54.130 --> 00:21:57.423
whether it's text or a quick phone call.
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And I believe that coaching
00:22:00.830 --> 00:22:03.270
is relationship driven,
00:22:03.270 --> 00:22:04.980
it's co-created,
00:22:04.980 --> 00:22:07.440
and if my clients didn't
have my phone number
00:22:08.610 --> 00:22:10.680
I don't feel comfortable saying
00:22:11.690 --> 00:22:12.777
they're my client.
00:22:15.800 --> 00:22:17.610
- Do I have online courses
00:22:17.610 --> 00:22:20.282
that people I don't know sign up for
00:22:20.282 --> 00:22:22.310
and they take?
00:22:22.310 --> 00:22:26.750
Yes, but I don't market them anymore,
00:22:26.750 --> 00:22:28.470
because I don't believe
00:22:28.470 --> 00:22:32.600
in that model of not knowing your clients.
00:22:33.840 --> 00:22:34.860
- Suzanne, and I introduced
00:22:34.860 --> 00:22:39.060
that the topic of this
podcast would be saboteurs.
00:22:39.060 --> 00:22:40.857
And yes, we've touched on that,
00:22:40.857 --> 00:22:43.990
but we've gone in some
other different directions.
00:22:43.990 --> 00:22:46.340
As we kind of go back to the theme
00:22:46.340 --> 00:22:48.660
of your master saboteur,
00:22:48.660 --> 00:22:50.420
the judge, if you would,
00:22:50.420 --> 00:22:53.250
is there anything you would like to add?
00:22:53.250 --> 00:22:55.160
Or kind of recap that
00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:56.700
so that our listeners have a kind of
00:22:56.700 --> 00:23:00.350
a clear understanding of that concept?
00:23:00.350 --> 00:23:01.260
- Yeah, I would say,
00:23:01.260 --> 00:23:04.770
imagine knowing,
00:23:04.770 --> 00:23:08.680
and being aware that
00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:12.662
that voice in your head is not you.
00:23:12.662 --> 00:23:14.800
So those doubts,
00:23:14.800 --> 00:23:16.810
those insecurities,
00:23:16.810 --> 00:23:18.308
the blame, the victim,
00:23:18.308 --> 00:23:21.640
the, oh things should be like that,
00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:25.330
or jealousy even, envy.
00:23:25.330 --> 00:23:26.700
All of those things are gonna come up
00:23:26.700 --> 00:23:28.360
as an entrepreneur.
00:23:28.360 --> 00:23:32.500
And I would love for
people to feel as though
00:23:33.540 --> 00:23:35.630
that's not who you are.
00:23:35.630 --> 00:23:37.360
And it's only through personal growth
00:23:37.360 --> 00:23:39.100
and personal development,
00:23:39.100 --> 00:23:41.060
that you can really separate
00:23:42.580 --> 00:23:46.680
what's being said in your head,
00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:47.513
from who-
00:23:47.513 --> 00:23:50.120
(audio warbles)
00:23:50.120 --> 00:23:53.360
And I think that is part of my mission
00:23:53.360 --> 00:23:55.273
to help more people feel like that.
00:23:56.760 --> 00:23:58.460
- Well, I know that
00:23:58.460 --> 00:24:00.400
that mission's been fulfilled in part
00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.273
by you just spending
some time with me today.
00:24:05.490 --> 00:24:07.210
I'm confident that there are folks
00:24:07.210 --> 00:24:08.458
who are listening,
00:24:08.458 --> 00:24:10.460
and/or watching this episode,
00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:13.920
and say I wanna learn more from Suzanne.
00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:14.980
What's the best way for them
00:24:14.980 --> 00:24:16.063
to connect with you?
00:24:16.980 --> 00:24:19.620
- Honestly, just go to my website,
00:24:19.620 --> 00:24:20.453
suzannetaylorking.com,
00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:24.030
on the very first page
00:24:24.030 --> 00:24:26.350
there are three different ways
00:24:26.350 --> 00:24:31.000
to grab some resources
from me to learn more.
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:32.660
There's my newsletter,
00:24:32.660 --> 00:24:37.660
there's an incredible
mental fitness checklist
00:24:37.950 --> 00:24:39.730
that that's kind of the start
00:24:39.730 --> 00:24:42.680
of this self-awareness journey.
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:44.365
And if someone's interested
00:24:44.365 --> 00:24:47.743
in taking the saboteur assessment,
00:24:48.950 --> 00:24:51.100
I typically reserve those assessments
00:24:51.100 --> 00:24:53.880
for my clients or potential clients,
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:55.750
but if someone reaches out
00:24:55.750 --> 00:24:58.320
and connects with me on social media,
00:24:58.320 --> 00:25:01.649
I'm on Facebook, I'm on LinkedIn,
00:25:01.649 --> 00:25:03.780
I dabble on Instagram,
00:25:03.780 --> 00:25:06.730
not super fond of it.
00:25:06.730 --> 00:25:08.732
Reach out to me and say,
00:25:08.732 --> 00:25:12.490
"gosh, I really loved that conversation,
00:25:12.490 --> 00:25:15.610
and I wanna know more about my saboteurs,"
00:25:15.610 --> 00:25:17.800
and I'll send them the resource
00:25:17.800 --> 00:25:19.330
that I sent you,
00:25:19.330 --> 00:25:22.110
and the quiz to find out
00:25:22.110 --> 00:25:24.300
who's showing up in your head,
00:25:24.300 --> 00:25:26.150
so you can learn more about yourself.
00:25:27.261 --> 00:25:29.710
- I know you just kind of characterize
00:25:29.710 --> 00:25:30.870
who's showing up in your head
00:25:30.870 --> 00:25:31.960
in a negative light,
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:34.450
but I wanna spin that a little bit.
00:25:34.450 --> 00:25:37.680
You have showed up for this podcast
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.640
and we've had a chance to see you be you,
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:42.880
and it just kind of,
00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:45.300
it just draws me even more closer to you.
00:25:45.300 --> 00:25:47.400
We have a new relationship,
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.930
but it's a relationship
that there's no question,
00:25:49.930 --> 00:25:52.399
for those who are listening to Suzanne,
00:25:52.399 --> 00:25:53.680
it's genuine.
00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:55.730
- Aww, thank you.
- She genuinely cares
00:25:55.730 --> 00:25:57.850
for people she comes in contact with.
00:25:57.850 --> 00:25:59.520
And though you didn't say this,
00:25:59.520 --> 00:26:00.353
another thing I've noticed
00:26:00.353 --> 00:26:02.020
that you are very good at,
00:26:02.020 --> 00:26:04.110
is connecting others,
00:26:04.110 --> 00:26:07.060
and your willingness to be real
00:26:07.060 --> 00:26:08.778
and connect others,
00:26:08.778 --> 00:26:13.170
just make you someone who
I'm enjoying get to know,
00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:15.260
and I'm looking forward
to get to know better.
00:26:15.260 --> 00:26:16.670
And I just wanna say thank you
00:26:16.670 --> 00:26:18.800
for being part of this podcast.
00:26:18.800 --> 00:26:20.441
- Well, thank you
00:26:20.441 --> 00:26:23.700
for one of the best compliments ever,
00:26:23.700 --> 00:26:26.860
that feeds my soul
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to hear that
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that's how it feels
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to spend time with me.
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I love connecting other people
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who should know each other.
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So thank you for that,
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I appreciate you.
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- You bet.
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So I wanna thank you for joining us,
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and I hope you've picked
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that will help you get
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Until next time.
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